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Saturday, 12 April 2014

SAMIL Solar Inverter - NO MORE!

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Its been a long while since I posted on the subject of our solar power experience and all the hassles I was having with our SAMIL® inverter ... June 2013 in fact!
Why so long?
Well really because I got totally frustrated with the manufacturer not supplying a fix for what I believe amounted to a poorly designed product.
It reached the point I was too scared to touch the inverter because when I did, something else would stop functioning correctly.
After having it "off-the-air" for several short periods where it would go into this perpetual rebooting cycle, taking upto several days to recover, I just gave up and manually recorded each day's generation!

The final straw came following a local power outage when the unit yet-again would not come back on-line for days!
I didn't even bother with the manufacturer, I just went straight to the vendor and (unfortunately for them) gave them my feelings in no uncertain terms, telling them to rip it out and replace it with a different make as this would have been the third SAMIL® we had if they just "replaced" it again.
To-boot, we had lost potentially several hundred dollars of generation since the very first unit was installed!
As it turned out, the vendor themselves had gone away from supplying that brand of inverter!

The vendor contract with the Manufacturer was that they could NOT simply remove a Samil without  visiting the site and going through SAMIL® approved recovery procedures. The vendor was very good about fitting us in, but none-the-less we had to wait nearly two weeks (with no generation) before the visit. During that time I resisted the urge to turn the unit on as I'd tried umpteen times and I figured it was best just to leave it in it's non-working state for them to see.

Naturally Murphy's law applied!
The vendor shows up, powers up the inverter and ... it comes on-line!!

Thankfully the tech was thorough, so between us we were able to provide SAMIL® enough evidence that the unit was indeed faulty.  (Log entries ... and the firmware had corrupted itself again so it no longer showed the version) This meant SAMIL® gave the OK to remove the unit.
With the unit gone and the vendor no longer supplying SAMIL® units, I was upgraded to a much more expensive model at no cost to me.

We are now the owners of a much physically bigger (and more noisy) AURORA® inverter which has operated flawlessly since Christmas.

Interestingly, although we might simply have had more sun-hours compared to the same time last year, we have consistently produced more power in these three months!



Last year kW totals for Jan, Feb, Mar

This year totals
 
 +148kW, +279kW, +73kW
So far this month (to 11 April) we've generated

vs 212 for the same number of April days last year, that's a further +64kW
 That's over 500kW more so far this year!

Was there consistently more sun this year or has the new inverter simply been operational more of the time when we're not around to see the old one going off-line?? 

The one down-side of the new inverter is it's limited interface for obtaining stats from the unit.
It does NOT have either LAN or WiFi connectivity, only RS485 connectivity is available which requires an additional converter to interface to a PC ... which I haven't got around to doing yet!
While this doesn't seem complex, I haven't fully researched this yet, so if anyone reading this post already has their AURORA® inverter connected and collecting statistics, I'd love to hear first-hand, how you went about it.

I note that I made comment about the noise of the new inverter.
The SAMIL® was almost totally silent.
The AURORA® has an inverter buzz which increases in volume as the output increases.
This is really only ever going to be an issue if you have the unit mounted inside the dwelling (as we have), but having said that, it really doesn't bother us at all, even at full-power output as the unit is not near bedrooms or directly adjacent to primary living areas.

One other little quirk of the AURORA® is that because I am still manually collecting statistics off the display panel every few days, selection and display of past history is "cumbersome" in that the start-of-reading date constantly defaults back to 01 JAN {currentYEAR}between each individual reading, so for each daily reading you have to first Escape back to the Statistics menu and scroll all the way to the very bottom entry for User Period and press return to then;
  • scroll through the days to the desired start-of-reading date;
  • press return;
  • scroll through the months to the desired {current} month;
  • press return;
  • press return again to accept the current year and move to the end-of-reading values;
  • scroll through the days to the desired end-of-reading date;
  • press return;
  • press return to accept the current month;
  • press return again to accept the current year and display the output for the chosen date;
  • press return to arrive back at the User Period display and do it all again to obtain data for the next day.
Obviously when set up to capture this data remotely, this wouldn't be an issue either.

Tuesday, 23 April 2013

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Latest update on TRYING to Network our
SAMIL River 5200TL-D Solar Inverter

Firmware versions



  In response to my Question to Samil ...

Can you please clarify/verify the firmware versioning, as it appears our new inverter has a later version(v1.10) than what is contained in the RAR file you sent me(v1.2)
(The original inverter was v1.02)

As an aside, the new inverter (running firmware v1.10) continues to mis-record values on a sporadic basis just like the first unit;

One sunny day (about the same amount of sun as those either side of it) the inverter decided to record 0.04KW for the day!
On three occasions now, it appears to have not reset the previous days total and continued to accrue the subsequent day’s generation to effectively have double the normal value on the second day!

I haven’t even bothered to try and re-connect it via WiFi/LAN to log the data as it will not stay connected to the network long enough to be worth my time!
Regards Colin

The Samil response was ...
 Hi Colin,
The v1.2 is the latest firmware version which fix the power record issue.

I admit that the R&D is working on the wifi dropping off randomly issue right now.
The temporary solution I recommend to J is to monitoring his system via the VIplant, which is a more stable firmware.


My reply was of-course ...
Thanks M
I may have a go at the firmware update this weekend then.
I must reiterate that there is ABSOLUTELY NO POINT TRYING TO USE VI-Plant because THE INVERTER WILL NOT STAY CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK let alone communicate with ANY monitoring solution!
It physically stops communicating until you reboot it 
Regards Colin

Thursday, 18 April 2013

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April 16 2013 update to: 

Ongoing experience of TRYING to Network our
SAMIL River 5200TL-D Solar Inverter



 A very brief update to say I've now had two other Samil owners email me to share their similar stories with me.
To one of the senders I replied ...

It’s nice to know its not just me!
I too have been rung by MikeZhang and have this MASSIVE email trail between us.

He has taken my early reports to the devs and I too got told to use VIplant instead of the browser solution ... despite me explaining at-length that the inverter won’t even stay on the network long enough to use VIplant ... quite apart from my having already set up an account and tried VIplant with total non-success.

In short it doesn’t seem like they want to recognise they have a problem and keep telling me to upgrade the firmware using  “the latest” rar file which they emailed me which I can’t seem to get through to them appears to be an EARLIER version than what is on the replacement inverter I had swapped-in by my installer!!!!

Am I frustrated ... you bet I am!
Having paid as much as we have for a supposedly “automated” system which I have to manually record each day and even then with the second unit every so often it records some totally erroneous daily value like 0.04KW on a sunny day or conversely 53KW+ on a partially cloudy day when the best “real” value I’ve ever seen is like 39.37KW on a totally sunny day!

I can only hope you are right and with more voices Samil will finally try and fix the shonky firmware!

Do stay in touch and I’ll try and update the blog when I have new info

Please Tweet/Facebook/G+ about my blog to get the info out to other Samil owners

PS
I take it you did see all the pages I put up with all my research and findings?